Do NOT listen to her, and don't give up on your dream of a better education. I was raised a JW and my mom got it in her head that she would homeschool me, which was totally ridiculous. I was lucky to be able to get a GED, but after having my education taken so far off course, and having fell so deep into the bottle for a number of years, four year college is ludicris. Keep going for yourself and laugh at the fools that try to stop you, even if you love them.
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My mom has just informed me about my "worldy activity"
by stillAwitness innot drugs
not even sex.
hell, it could of even been my cosmo magazine that comes every month.
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How many raised as a JW have a hard time remembering holidays?
by still angry ini'm asking this because i found myself in an bad spot monday night.
my daughter is almost three and goes to a little preschool thing each day.
they were to have a valentine's day party on tuesday, for which i was to bring fruit, etc.
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I feel a lot better now...I'm usually pretty good about the big ones, unless it's an aspect I never had to do as an adult, but birthdays, Forgetaboutit! Yes, and Easter I have a hard time with. Thank God the US doesn't have the Bonfire one, it's just another that'd be missed along the way.
I've now stocked up on all the good Belated Birthday cards, and keep a small stash of neat trinkets for gifts when I remember at the eleventh hour.
I've found it's hard to get really excited about most holidays when I have no memories to reflect on, or family rituals to draw from.
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Back Pain and Triggerpoint Injections
by ameliasmom ini know this is not really "on topic, but just wondering if anyone else suffered from chronic back and neck pain.
i have been in constant pain for years (really, years).
i have tried everything from acupuncture to chiropractors to rolfing, neurologists, orthopedists, etc.
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No success with this with my condition (Degenerative Disc Disease in 4 discs, lower back), however, I have the steriod epidural every few years when I can't take the pain anymore. They seem to help, at least for a number of months.
Unfortunately, it seems that many suffer from back pain and there are very few options. If you have explored all the traditional and non traditional methods, and haven't found any that work, you have two choices really, both poor ones. Live with it somehow, or have a surgery that guarantees very little success and probability of more pain. At least, these are the choices as I understand them now. I am in Madison, WI, which does a lot of bio genetic engineering and other medical research. They are still working on replacement discs here that are much more suitable than the ones currently in use in Europe, etc., and the beginning stats of trial research are looking really good. So I just keep my fingers crossed...Good luck to you, I feel your pain.
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How many raised as a JW have a hard time remembering holidays?
by still angry ini'm asking this because i found myself in an bad spot monday night.
my daughter is almost three and goes to a little preschool thing each day.
they were to have a valentine's day party on tuesday, for which i was to bring fruit, etc.
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I'm asking this because I found myself in an bad spot Monday night. My daughter is almost three and goes to a little preschool thing each day. They were to have a Valentine's Day party on Tuesday, for which I was to bring fruit, etc. Her teacher included a list of all the children and teachers names, which probably should've been my first clue, but I had nothing to base this on.
So, at 9:30 pm, I'm on the phone with my sister-in-law who asks what kind of cards Katie picked out for her classmates. I said, "Huh?" Cards? Cchhwwhhaatt? She then explained the whole ritual to me, of which I had been oblivious as I was always whisked out of classrooms at this point as a child. Holy cripes, I was up 'til 1am with my scrapbooking stuff, making 36 cards out of construction paper, glue and stickers. I was exhausted Tuesday, but quite pleased that I didn't let the JW's get the best of me! Unfortunately, my daughter then puked all over the floor five minutes into her party and had to go home early, but dang it! She had the best looking Valentines Cards! :-)
The point is, I constantly seem to find myself disenchanted or just plain forgetful of significant holidays throughout the year. My husband totally gets annoyed with me as he's a Christmas (raised Catholic) junky, but I don't know how to explain this to him, and other relatives of whom obviously unintentionally dissed over the years. My sister-in-law says I'm hopeless. Has anyone else experienced this? What do you tell your friends or relatives?
Thanks in advance!
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Do you know why the WT wants to be called "the branch" and not "society?
by flag inone elder in my (or ex) cong.
is always correcting himself every time he says "society".
he always goes "upps, excuse me the branch says this and that bla bla bla bla".
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Seems to me that to decentralize the system would be to throw off responsibility during litigations. Only a branch can therefore be sued, not an entire organization...
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'Disciplining' Children during meetings
by theredhead inonce at our local kh, the families were told if they needed to 'spank' their children they needed to do it inside the hall for now on and not take the child outside.
apparently, some neighbors reported one of the mothers for child abuse and called up the hall and told the elders that if they see it again they will call the police.. .
by no shocker the mother was still able to keep her baby...
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I have a very distinct memory as a small child, I was probably three, maybe four. We always sat toward the front (why with four children would you sit in the front? Dumb.) Anyway, I was turning in my seat looking at people or whatever, and my dad and mom kept warning me to turn around and face the front. Boring! So I kept turning around. Eventually, my dad hauled me off to the library, which is where all the beatings took place. Of course, I was petrified and kept trying to put my hand on my bottom as I was drug unceremoniously down the aisle. All those people giving me disapproving, knowing looks. So I called out "Jehovah! Please help me!" And the entire kh erupted in laughter. Of course, I think I was beat with the belt even harder for embarrassing my dad.
Of course, now, I do have a sense of humor about that moment. It still makes me sad for that little girl though. I was scared out of my wits and I think I wet my pants. Ugh, it brings back some bad memories.
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What Went Thru Your Mind While Sitting at The Meetings?
by minimus ini used to listen but not really.
i'd look at the platform/speaker stand, look like i was paying attention, get antsy, and find another elder to "discuss" something ith.
i just got to the meeting----right before it was to start and if the talkative po decided that his last part was going to go overtime, i'd put on my coat and look at the big clock on my way out in front of everyone and leave for the local bar.
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LOL, this is a great thread! My brother and I were huge Motley Crue fans (hey, it was the eighties) and we would write the lyrics to "Shout at the Devil" in the margins of our bibles to tick my mom off. She actually whaled on my brother when he was 17?, in the back of the hall because he drew an upside down pentagram in his song book. After that, she'd confiscate all writing instruments when we sat down, so I'd daydream about anything and everything. I had quite a lot of fun winking at young bros that were hot and heavy with some pioneer chick and make 'em blush so their girlfriends would get all pissy. It was truly all in the timing so that both were looking at me when I winked and gave the "come hither" look. God, I must of broke up at least five or six couples just by being saucy! How Fun! And really, what a sad existence for all.
If nothing exciting was going on, I'd basically slide into a semi-coma and try to figure out how I was going to get out of the house Friday and Saturday night.
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Can a Sexual Predator Be Cured?
by Kenneson inthe state of california is conducting an experiment by releasing some sexual predators, who have undergone treatment at a state hospital into some communities.
one such example is cary verse, who is now in bay point.
convicted of sexual assault of three boys and a man and treated in atascadero state hospital, he left treatment in feb. 2004 and is now on conditional release.
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You know, I've always had a line of thought that goes something like this...If a family dog attacks and bites a person, especially a child, a community responds with horror and demands that the "vicious" animal is disposed of. It doesn't matter if the animal was being taunted or abused, any harm to a child is unacceptable in a lot of people's viewpoint. UNLESS, the animal is a human, in which case, we have to show tolerance for their predatory and twisted selves? Huh? I'm sorry, if I had an "animal" that was a predator of my children, I guarantee they would meet an untimely demise. It's absolutely no different for people. Personally, I feel very sorry for people that are wired wrong and are predators of their own kind, because they are defective and need to be disposed of. I don't care what people feel and do as long as they are not harming others, period.
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I think Islam is a peaceful religion...
by Pleasuredome in.
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"that will teach them that we mean peace"
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Religion is the tool of choice for all conquerors, war mongers and general trouble makers. It is the easiest way to inflame confused, weak and/or ignorant people in any culture of any socioeconomic background. It is always evident when the actions of these people are always at odds with the fundamental beliefs of religions that are based on "loving your brother", "treating others as you would be treated", and instead focus solely on a passage or verse that speaks of retribution in order to back their ideology.
In the case of Islam, Jihad is not Islam's fundamental belief. Islam is basically split into two theories, one peace loving and one based in destruction. It is no different than Christianity, or any other major religions that have also been broken off into sects that harm others rather than help them. Look even at the case of JW's: They will speak to you with honey dripping from their mouths and will most cruelly inflict damage where they can to control and manipulate people. It is easy to get pulled into this duality, and Islam is quite adaptable to this form of mind control. It is cynically humorous that people cannot see the truth that is before them as in the case of this particular sign.
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What has hurt you the most for being a JW?
by MsMcDucket in.
or what do you regret most about being a jw?.
for me it's being alienated by my twin daughters.
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The disillusionment from growing up a JW has affected my life in so many ways, but perhaps the most distressing is the lack of trust I have for people in general which affects all relationships. Also, the distrust in ANY god, thus destroying any chances of a "normal" spiritual life in any religion.
On a secular level, the inability to attend college, in fact, my parents pulled me out of public school to be home schooled in 8th grade. (God forbid I looked at a boy! Gasp!) I have managed to raise above it by continuing to pursue careers in insurance and finance that do not require a four year degree, but it still makes me angry that I can't go back to college if I wanted to at this point due to my parents wonderful "ideas".
Let's see, I have four brothers, all of which either left home or were kicked out at 17/18 years old, so my family was destroyed. My youngest brother was a drug addict for a number of years after which has seriously impaired his faculties. Another brother has been divorced twice and yet the third is too distrustful of anybody to contemplate marriage. I hurt for all of them, and even though they all rarely discuss growing up in JW hell, they all acknowledge how negatively the experience affects all their lives. I refused to go to the hall at 16 when I found out through simple research that in my state they couldn't force me to go. I actually begged to go to a foster home. This was all 14 years ago and yet it seems like yesterday.
Sorry, I kinda rambled off point, but this was my first post and I got carried away!
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